[Greyfox60]

Well, I guess I just haven't upgraded enough cars then because I don't recall EVER seeing another car not even go up a single point when adding four or more engine upgrades.

Sure Todd, and it also goes way up when you put on either of the bumpers. I have a challenge for you all then. Take a car that starts out at the same class with a similar starting PI. Add everything except the tires and bumpers. Does it go above an S class? This is of course with the same upgrades available. Does it stay at the SAME PI with 4 engine upgrades added? Heck, I might even go do that myself once I build up some money just to see if it IS an "abnormallity" for any car to stay in one place when upgrading. Sorry to make such a big deal about this, but to me to even claim it isn't a glitch it just so ridiculous to me. It is really simple to me....add horsepower or handling capabilities to a car and it's performance WILL go up.

So I guess what I got out of all this is that there is different definitions of what is a glitch and what isn't. In fact, I think the lowest I have ever seen a cars PI go up with any engine upgrade is 6 points. I honestly didn't know that there were cars that only went up 1 point or even zero when you added engine upgrades, especially didn't know that it was normal for ANY car to not go up in PI with several engine upgrades.

Sorry I got everyones panties in a bunch. Next time I will just stay quiet when I see something totally different in a game that I have seen before and something that is almost exactly why the scoreboards were reset. Damn, they reset all my scores only for me to find out the Elan (which I didn't use anyways) was not a normal definition of a glitch car after all.

I do agree with you Silver on one thing though. I don't care if anyone does use it as I believe that to be a personal choice. Of course that is based on my still existing belief that it IS a glitch even though there are several who think otherwise. I guess what you are saying is that added HP doesn't add to the "performance" index on this car because all that added power makes the handling worse?? If that is the case, then I wonder why in different real race series they limit either engine size or horsepower? Just wanted to post my observations and opinion on the matter