Should it be?

[TreeTopFlyer]

Originally Posted by The Green Guy

I say no to glitch cars. I'd like to think no one here would exploit a programming error just to win a tournament race.

But, who are you to determine it's a glitch car. For that matter, what makes anyone on this site qualified? It's just a matter of time before someone says some car I wanna drive is a glitch car. Even posting that is narrow minded.

[TreeTopFlyer]

Originally Posted by Wobbly Goblin

it seems to make good sense to disqualify the use of any known glitches. My two cents.

Again, what qualifies you to say this is a glitch car? Hell, I don't even have this car in S class. I just don't like being told I can't drive a car because "it's an uncontollable rocket I'm scared to see you try to drive" or any other lame excuse. Turn 10 already took action with the cars they felt had problems. I say if I can pick it and so can you, it's fair game.

[Wobbly Goblin]

Originally Posted by TreeTopFlyer

But, who are you to determine it's a glitch car. For that matter, what makes anyone on this site qualified?

Clearly none of us are Tree. That's why I used the term "known glitch". I personally haven't even tried to build a GT40...just going by what I was told, but it's my understanding that PI is determined by overall performance. In this case maybe you can install a bunch of stuff to increase the horsepower, but without down-force do you have good overall performance? Probably not. Maybe that's why the PI isn't affected?

[TreeTopFlyer]

The reason I'm so passionate about this is, I've has more than one game where "friends" said I was glitching because they did not like my weapons selection or a particular car I've chosen. It really ruins a game to have people (especially so called "friends") accuse me of cheating. I have not even begun to choose a car. All I have to say at this point is: if you guys start being pissy I'm out of the Tues series and any other series TBA.

[Wobbly Goblin]

You know in all honesty Tree, I only responded to this thread because of PM's I received from you and Fox. I have personally never played a game with you or any other friend in where I suspected them of cheating. In fact, the only time I've ever even whitenesses someone using an exploit was in Rainbow Six Vegas. It was on the "LV Campus" map and a guy killed our entire team by shooting through a window. I later heard someone refer to it as the "glitch window". Apparently bullets will only travel one direction through it? I also heard there were other objects, such as planters that you could hide behind and shoot through without worry of being hit...but I've never personally seen any of them.

As for Forza, is the "GT40" a glitch car? Maybe it is, but so what if it's not competitive. Beside, this is Silver's series and he has clearly stated that he couldn't care less if someone uses it.

I'm done with this subject!

[Greyfox60]

Originally Posted by TreeTopFlyer

But, who are you to determine it's a glitch car. For that matter, what makes anyone on this site qualified? It's just a matter of time before someone says some car I wanna drive is a glitch car. Even posting that is narrow minded.

I guess you could say intelligence qualifies me. When I see the PI of a car stay at the same number while I add numerous horsepower, motor upgrades to it, then it becomes obvious that it is a glitch car. It was at 988 and I added race intake, exhaust, fuel and not sure what else and it remained at 988. Now, if someone with an IQ higher than kindergartener sees this, it is obvious that that is NOT what the game developers intended and is obviously a glitched car.

I invite anyone to check it out for themselves. After all, that is why I posted this and sent out the PM's, so the series participants could decide. I didn't make any decision on it myself, just posted my opinion on it. Personally if someone feels they need to run a car that does not go up in PI when it obviously should as the other cars do to have a chance at winning or that that is the only way that they can have fun, then I really don't care. I am just saying that I personally will not run a glitched car.

If someone doesn't think that a car is "glitched" when you can add upgrades and not see the PI go up (unless already maxed U class car) then they really need to buy a tractor and chain to pull their head out of their ass.

That being said, if someone really wants to run that car then I have no problem with it as long as they have the Forza front and rear bumper included in the upgrade as this does not allow the glitch.

[Greyfox60]

Originally Posted by TreeTopFlyer

The reason I'm so passionate about this is, I've has more than one game where "friends" said I was glitching because they did not like my weapons selection or a particular car I've chosen. It really ruins a game to have people (especially so called "friends") accuse me of cheating. I have not even begun to choose a car. All I have to say at this point is: if you guys start being pissy I'm out of the Tues series and any other series TBA.

Wow, so you think being concerned about someone running a car that does not have the PI go up past a certain point with multiple upgrades is being pissy?

When have I EVER accused you of using something glitched??? I just posted about this car as soon as I saw what it does BEFORE the race so it DOESN'T become a problem. Some people may not even notice that it is glitched if they are upgrading and not paying that close of attention to how the upgrades effect the cars PI number.

So if you have a problem with someone attempting to make sure things are fair for all concerned, then so be it. Personally I think it is rather "pissy" for someone to complain about someone asking what the others thought about a car and acting like it was a personal attack on them and threatening to pull out of the series over it. Just my opinion though for what it's worth.

Personally I trully hope you don't pull out of the series as I enjoy racing with you and actually any gaming with you I enjoy. But, if I see a car or a position in a FPS that is obviously glitched, then I WILL say something about it. If you find that pissy, then so be it.

I am just really surprised by this. I mean if someone in a room you were hosting in RB6 Vegas was in any of the glitch windows or position taking out your team mates, would you kick them from your room? And if so, would that be "being pissy"?

[Wobbly Goblin]

Originally Posted by Greyfox60

I guess you could say intelligence qualifies me.

I don't know one way or another Fox, but isn't it possible that you're basing your opinion on nothing more then horsepower? I mean lets face it, without down-force the car handles like shit!